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Shaiapouf 01-Mar-22 11:30 PM
STOP USING EMOJIS KUHN
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LettuceKitteh 01-Mar-22 11:30 PM
maybe pick a different emoji at least
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archaeo 01-Mar-22 11:30 PM
>:D
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Shaiapouf 01-Mar-22 11:31 PM
so Kuhn is a minor character from the first .hack game named Sieg. As I mentioned previously he was a coma victim and his girlfriend is the main protagonist of the ovas that came out with those games
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She soon after dumped him for his wandering eye
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womp womp
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to his credit, he does give the kid the dungeon prize
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because at the end of the day he is a nice guy
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Shaiapouf
STOP USING EMOJIS KUHN
Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 01-Mar-22 11:34 PM
"this is awkward orz"
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Shaiapouf 01-Mar-22 11:36 PM
next up is Pi's quest
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and we run into Alkaid again
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She is understandably displeased to see us, after last time
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 01-Mar-22 11:38 PM
Haseo The Great
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Shaiapouf 01-Mar-22 11:38 PM
Truth hurts tbh
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He did in fact also kinda cheat to become the terror of death
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like, Alkaid really isn't wrong to be mad at Haseo, who by any objective measure is cheating at a video game
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YOU ARE STEALING BREAD OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF HONEST GAMERS
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Pi actually jumps to Haseo's defense, surprisingly enough. After all, there is a lot alkaid doesn't really know about the situation
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I love the divide between characters involved in The Plot and characters who literally treat this as a normal Video Game
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we help Alkaid with a boss fight. She asks us to tell her why we cheated at the arena but we don't tell her about the fucked up game shit. Alkaid Decides we've progressed to the "ONLY I AM ALLOWED TO DEFEAT YOU" stage of our relationship
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:00 AM
anyways with side stuff done it's time to face down endrance proper
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Saku schemes something for "Master En"
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Endrance tells her to slow down and let him deal with Haseo
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"She"
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and for guest commentary we have uh
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lmao gabi
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Ovan casually drops that Ovan and Haseo used to be in the same guild and we flash back to those days
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This is covered in more detail in the side anime but basically: Ovan, Haseo, and shino were in a guild called The Twilight Brigade, which was looking for a thing called "The Key Of Twilight" which is a whole can of worms I am too tired to get into right now
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Shaiapouf
Saku schemes something for "Master En"
Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 02-Mar-22 12:09 AM
am I the only one wishing he'd been instead called "Master E"
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:09 AM
At some point the guild leader, Ovan, vanished without a trace. Shino went to the lost grounds to try and find out what happened to them, which is how she got killed by Tri-Edge
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:09 AM
dang
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni"
am I the only one wishing he'd been instead called "Master E"
Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:09 AM
Honestly no, Master En sounds really weird
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:09 AM
sounds like a real fun OVA
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:09 AM
It's actually a whole ass 26 episode series
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:10 AM
lol
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Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 12:10 AM
with Yuki Kaijura on music
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:10 AM
yeah
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Literally every character in the game is watching this fight and commenting on it lol
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Shaiapouf
Honestly no, Master En sounds really weird
Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 02-Mar-22 12:12 AM
it was really just for the pun shhh
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:12 AM
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:13 AM
for real tho
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:13 AM
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"she"
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:14 AM
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Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 12:14 AM
I love the avatar fight musics because it's different for each one
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:14 AM
Last Avatar fight against another Avatar for the game, Versus Macha
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:14 AM
oh okay, walpurgisnacht
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:16 AM
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:16 AM
oh ok
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:17 AM
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Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 12:19 AM
ahhh, I keep wanting to say spoilers
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Zedd-Repulsa
ahhh, I keep wanting to say spoilers
Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:19 AM
oh no I am absolutely going to get to this don't worry
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I've been waiting on that one for a while
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:20 AM
oh is this even more eva than I thought
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:20 AM
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:20 AM
lmfao
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:23 AM
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 02-Mar-22 12:24 AM
and now it's time for them to throw their respective traumas at each other until someone falls over
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni"
and now it's time for them to throw their respective traumas at each other until someone falls over
Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:24 AM
such an astute summary I would almost think you played this before
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this is a total aside but Macha has one attack where it generates a tone of rose petals as a sheild and it just tanks the frame rate lmao
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but the fight finally ends
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and AIDA consumed the arena
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:28 AM
rudolf
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:28 AM
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AIDA was hiding as a cat all this time lol. LMAO
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anyways, Haseo won the tournament,
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hooray
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:30 AM
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:31 AM
stupid hat
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:32 AM
okay RKO I'm gonna stop it there. But I need to decide if I want to give The Endrance Talk now or tomorrow
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it's your call
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It's a doozy
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Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 12:33 AM
it's kinda late for you so my vote is tomorrow so there's no rush
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:34 AM
It is pretty late and I don't want to rush it but it depends
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:37 AM
nah man it'll keep
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:38 AM
nod nod
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:38 AM
give it the Full Experience
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let it marinate
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:38 AM
anyways look forward to that tomorrow and the oppertunity to reread Endrance's lines tomorrow and go googlyerika
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:39 AM
I mean
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I am already there
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a lot has happened in this game
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there are no little lives
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only
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:39 AM
This is the slow game
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:39 AM
little
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cats
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:39 AM
of the three
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:39 AM
dang
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:39 AM
We are almost done
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that was more or less the climax of the main arc of the game
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:40 AM
sure
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I mean
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how do you top that
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:40 AM
heh
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:40 AM
oh boy
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 12:40 AM
I don't actually fully remember, honestly
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womp womp
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anyways a lot of very Evangelion things happened this update
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Shaiapouf
such an astute summary I would almost think you played this before
Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 02-Mar-22 12:42 AM
something else also may or may not have come to mind about game avatars created out of childrens' trauma
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 12:43 AM
Neopets
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 02-Mar-22 12:43 AM
....you're not wrong
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 05:29 PM
@archaeo @Zedd-Repulsa okay. Lets talk about Endrance
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Before I can really talk about Endrance though, I need to go back and make something explicit that I've kind of alluded to a bit, and that's the relationship between Avatars and the first game
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so lets start by talking about Kuhn, specifically his Avatar, Magus
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Magus, also known as The Third Phase, The Propogation
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As I mentioned previously, as Morganna went insane she manifested parts of her code as these very strange looking beings, called Phases
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this is what Magus looked like, initially
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why she did this is unclear, but it was likely something about how Harold coded her, based on the epitaph Emma posted
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the fragment of the epitaph that talks about The phases is as follows
Unknown where the Cursed Wave was born… After the stars doth cross the heavens, The sky in the East doth darken and air doth fill with mourning. From the chosen land beyond the forest, a sign of the wave comes. Riding the wake is Skeith, the Shadow of Death, to drown all that stands. Mirage of Deceit, Innis, Betray all with the flawed image, and did aid the Wave. And by the Power of Magus, a drop from the Wave doth reach the heavens, and creates a new Wave. With the Wave, Fidchell, the power to tell the dark future, hope darkens, sadness and despair rule. Gorre schemes when swallowed by the Cursed Wave. Macha seduces with the sweet trap. Wave reaches the Pinnacle, and escape none can. Tarvos still remains with more cruelty to punish and destroy. And with the turbulent destruction after the Wave. Only a void remains. From deep within the void arrives Corbenik. Perhaps then the Wave is just a beginning as well.
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so for instance when Magus uses its ability to create a duplicate of itself for Haseo to murder, as a joke that's based on this "And by the Power of Magus, a drop from the Wave doth reach the heavens, and creates a new Wave."
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(Pi, as an aside, is phase 7, Tarvos. tbh one of the less interesting phases)
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The general course of the .hack// games sees these phases manifest, one by one, and ultimately are defeated by the protagonists. However, Morganna's code is the backbone of the world. And as the phases are destroyed, her code becomes less and less stable and The World becomes more buggy, more dangerous, and all around unstable
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Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 05:38 PM
Pi's just makes her a really tough brawler imo. good fusion with her character class
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 05:39 PM
so, with that explanation set up
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 05:39 PM
Lets talk about "Mia"
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Mia is a player Kite meets early in the game. No one else has a character that looks like a cat in that version of The World and everyone takes it to mean her character is modded in some vaguely EULA breaking fashion
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Mia's generally really helpful to the group early on and is fairly charismatic and competent
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Mia has a constant companion, Elk
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Elk is a nice guy but is pretty gloomy and basically follows Mia around with the kind of devotion you see from, say, Atoli following Sakaki
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Things are fine for a while until Kite starts defeating the phases
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After that, weird shit starts to happen with Mia. First she has audio issues, as though her mic isn't working temporarily.
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Until eventually, after 5 phases are destroyed, Mia vanishes (edited)
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Eventually it becomes clear that Mia is in fact, unknown to herself, a manifestation of the Phase Macha, cast aside by Morgana for complicated reasons that relate to .hack//sign that I am going to elide because this is dense enough as it is
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anyways, the gang is forced to fight Macha and defeats her. In good tragic fashion, Elk then runs into the dungeon, in time for Macha to transform back into Mia and die in his arms
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so Elk is obviously super fucked up by this and leaves the party
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up until the very very end of the game when he comes back to help for the final battle
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Elk's player, at this time, is 13 years old (edited)
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Now you might think this is where the story ends
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but no
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because after the final defeat of Morgana there is a secret super dungeon you can do at the very end of the .hack games
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where you can bring Mia back to life
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Elk reunites with her at the very end and they are able to carry on
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so, for some years after those games, everything was fine
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except...what happened after that? between .hack and .hack//GU? (edited)
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The servers for the world caught fire and the game shut down for years
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finally rebranding as R2
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So Elk's player, now a young adult, creates his character, Endrance and logs into the new version of The World
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and Mia...is not there
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She isn't anywhere in the world
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because, for reasons we don't fully understand yet, whatever was left of Mia's code was turned into Avatar Macha https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dothack/images/6/6a/Img_phase06_illust.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20171009022746
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which did of course immediately latch onto Endrance's character data
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But Endrance didn't know that. All he knew was that he was alone in The World now, and he had no idea why
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at which point AIDA comes in the form of a cat and manipulates him into perceiving it as Mia
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and that's endrance's story
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In the real world, Endrance is a computer addicted, reclusive 20-year-old named Kaoru Ichinose (一ノ瀬薫). He lives with his parents in Kanagawa Prefecture. According to Yata, he plays The World R:2 almost 24/7, logging out just enough to sleep.
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LettuceKitteh 02-Mar-22 05:56 PM
....poor guy.
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 05:57 PM
If you go back and reread what he was talking about during the battle, a lot of it makes perfect sense
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at which point AIDA comes in the form of a cat and manipulates him into perceiving it as Mia
Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 06:01 PM
a form she chooses because he'd just lost a white cat irl
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and lemme go find a really good fanart for this
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Shaiapouf 02-Mar-22 06:02 PM
I think that's only true in the manga that follows a slightly different continuity?
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still valid, tho
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Zedd-Repulsa 02-Mar-22 06:04 PM
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both CH and I are recovering shut-ins, so Endrance is relatable
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archaeo 02-Mar-22 06:32 PM
Well fuck
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