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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:06 PM
AIDA didn't originate in FF14, remember?
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And now apparently Cubia just...exists in the network generally
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:06 PM
“Spook Power Plant”
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:06 PM
Remember how Aura, during the golden age, basically maintained the whole of the internet
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:07 PM
What “nearby residents,” people don’t LIVE in Langley
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Actually I guess they probably do
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:07 PM
basically the news is just full of system malfunctions
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:07 PM
Like a whole town and whatnot
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Dang
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When’s the last time an emergency landing at sea went that well
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:08 PM
Sully?
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:08 PM
Oh yeah!
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:08 PM
there's also a train crash
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and also this lmao
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:09 PM
dammit Chris Endavor
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:10 PM
I feel like space stations don’t work this way
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:10 PM
look, if it's good enough for Summer Wars it's good enough for .hack
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also I like how we're getting this story now because the gaming news vertical is slow lmao.
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L M A O
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"CC Corp has acknowledged the special directors faults"
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this is just like when FF14 gets a mod who starts banning people for posting RP in party finder
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and obviously, like any apocalypse, people wanna Post about it.
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On the Beach is a 1959 American post-apocalyptic science fiction drama film from United Artists, produced and directed by Stanley Kramer, that stars Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner, Fred Astaire, and Anthony Perkins. This black-and-white film is based on Nevil Shute's 1957 novel of the same name depicting the aftermath of a nuclear war. Unlike in the ...
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now there is a callback that would have been dated when the game came out
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LMAO at these two
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look at the bright side rko
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now EVERYONE is as mad at Ovan as us
battler 3
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I love how self-centered this game portrays Gamers
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Skeith 16-May-22 11:17 PM
Ovan destroyed the internet
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He did that
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Boom
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:17 PM
I respect him, for that
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whomst amongst us hasn't fantasized
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but Ovan is doing
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Skeith 16-May-22 11:18 PM
True
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:18 PM
anyways I say self centered because in the context of everything being mad about not being able to play MMOs is extremely funny and very realistic
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I love how self-centered this game portrays Gamers
Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:18 PM
Are they wrong
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:18 PM
also Skeith, I had a question
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cause I sincerely forget
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does the game ever actually explain what AIDA is?
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anyways it is extremely funny that The Whole Internet Is Mad at Ovan, but like, not for the right reasons
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:22 PM
Yeah when they nailed the portrayal in this game
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They really fuckin nailed it
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Skeith 16-May-22 11:22 PM
I don't think there is anything beyond what Aida is other than rouge AI that is trying to learn about humans
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And I think that was already explained?
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:23 PM
anyways in my e-mails, it sounds like Haseo finally convinced Saku not to like, vanish into the subconcious, so that's nice
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:23 PM
I can't believe Ovan's being cancelled for checks making it hard to play FF14
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Skeith
I don't think there is anything beyond what Aida is other than rouge AI that is trying to learn about humans
Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:23 PM
okay so in that case
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let me just share what the wiki says about AIDA
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because I think it's really interesting and will explain some stuff
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The AIDA are "natural" AIs, formed from the errors in the Internet caused by the disappearance of Aura. Unlike Aura, who was created by a system, the AIDA evolved much like normal life. The AIDA were originally harmless, but after several thousand of them were produced, a mutant appeared. This AIDA, Tri-Edge, had aggressive tendencies, and attacked a player. Since the AIDA are all connected, this aggression soon spread to the rest of them. As the AIDA learned more about the outside world, through online news and the memories of their victims, they attempted to recreate parts of it within R:2. The first such artifacts were coinlockers, modeled from the news article "Coinlocker Baby" that first made AIDA aware of humans.
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:25 PM
dang
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:26 PM
So yeah it was never exactly a hostile virus at all
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just a curious AI conglomeration
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That said
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:26 PM
It's all Tri-Edge's fault in the end
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:26 PM
MAN what a fucked up thing for AIDA to latch onto early on
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Coin-operated-locker babies or coin-locker babies are victims of child abuse of a kind often occurring in Japan, in which infants are left in public lockers.[1] The presumption is that such lockers are regularly checked by attendants and the infant will be found quickly; however, many children are found dead. Between 1980 and 1990, there were 191 reported cases of infants which died in coin-operated lockers, which represents about six percent of all infanticides during that period.
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Remember that thing Atoli found at the end of Vol 1 that got her epitaph stolen? That was a coin locker AIDA
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:27 PM
emotstare
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:27 PM
Jfc
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:27 PM
this is just like, a weird fucked up socio-economic ill in japan
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as I have said over and over again, The World is a system designed to turn human interactions into AI. What ended up happening, I think, one of those AIs gained some of the qualities of The World and became self-replicating, and sought people out as a means of reproducing itself
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and so it became a swarm of entities that would seek out and try to understand strong emotions it encountered
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and most of the strong emotions you find on the internet are, to be honest, very negative
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Skeith 16-May-22 11:30 PM
In an OVA that has been rendered non-canon by the existence of Volume 4 some AIDA approach Atoli and Haseo at a festival to show that they are evolving and become good
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:30 PM
I am curious if Vol. 4 will deal with this at all
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But for now the take away is that
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the only really "hostile" AIDA was Tri-edge
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on the one hand, this further makes Ovan's actions reckless and unwarrented But on the other, given that Ovan himself was, at the end of the day, an AIDA PC, I kinda have to wonder how in control of his own actions and emotions he really was for all that time.
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but those are just my thoughts on this
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We'll probably get some sort of answer to that in Vol 4, tbh
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anyways I've gone rather afield
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Well, I agree but all these e-mails just reiterating what we already know aren't going to
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oh. Hi.
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:34 PM
Sup
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:34 PM
lets go see her then
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Skeith 16-May-22 11:36 PM
Strangest part of Vol 4 is how despite late-stage .Hack// continuity not being nearly as cohesive and tightly knit as the earlier stuff it does make a genuine attempt to make sure that it doesn't contradict and can lead into Link (edited)
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:37 PM
I do know absolutely nothing about .link or tbh basically anything after vol 3, since after that .hack kinda stopped existing in the west for a decade
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Skeith 16-May-22 11:37 PM
I am not a fan of Link and a lot of the stuff related to it
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:39 PM
I have Zelkova and Kaede with me and this may be the first time since Vol 1 where I am in fact significantly outleveled by my party members
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 16-May-22 11:43 PM
Zelkova gets a lot of xp as guild master
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Chim
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:45 PM
Man you sure get a lot of party members in this game
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:45 PM
you sure do
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even putting aside the fact that a lot of characters have repeating skills
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Zelkova and Yata are are first repear and dancer party member, respectively
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archaeo 16-May-22 11:46 PM
Dang, right here at the end
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Shaiapouf 16-May-22 11:59 PM
anyways, one dungeon later
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Haseo: uh, sure.
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archaeo 17-May-22 12:01 AM
God people suck at dying in this game
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Shaiapouf 17-May-22 12:01 AM
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I mean very little is actually capable of killing you in The World, just putting you into a coma
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archaeo 17-May-22 12:02 AM
Go rattle your cymbal ass at him Haseo
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That oughta help
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Shaiapouf 17-May-22 12:02 AM
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it briefly flashes back to when Haseo was PKed at the start of Vol 1 and then rescued by Ovan
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she runs off
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archaeo 17-May-22 12:03 AM
Fucking Christ
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Shaiapouf 17-May-22 12:03 AM
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there is some sort of earthquake (edited)
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We'll stop there
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archaeo 17-May-22 12:08 AM
.hack//Ground Undulating
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Shaiapouf 17-May-22 12:09 AM
golf clap
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 17-May-22 12:11 AM
.hack//Grinding Underground
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You can do a lot with these
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LettuceKitteh 17-May-22 12:12 AM
"why didn't you save my brother" "because he was responsible for getting a lot of people hurt, kiddo. Also I couldn't."
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 17-May-22 12:12 AM
"sorry I'm a gamer, my only power is in FF14"
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Shaiapouf 17-May-22 12:14 AM
Yeah like what does Haseo even say to that. "Your brother played me and everyone else around him like puppets to fullfill his weird murder suicide pact with the whole internet. Sorry?" (edited)
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archaeo 17-May-22 12:16 AM
Mmhmm
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 17-May-22 12:17 AM
So what happened to the whole "combining Morgana factors to become a digital god" thing
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Shaiapouf 17-May-22 12:18 AM
Well, only one person has data from all the Morgana factors in one PC
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 17-May-22 12:19 AM
So why couldn't digital God haseo just fix the Aida problem
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 01:51 PM
Planning on playing more tonight
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We are actually getting into the finale of vol 3 pretty soon
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Though, unlike the past 2 vol, the post game for Vol. 3 is substantial and plotty, so expect some more to come on that front before setting down for the epilogue of vol 4
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archaeo 19-May-22 02:00 PM
.hack//Games Unending
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Zedd-Repulsa 19-May-22 02:16 PM
yeah pretty much
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:17 PM
You don't even know how much I am prepared to suffer for you all
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Also a reminder that if anyone really wants to see the final bond scene for a specific playable character, let me know so I can start affinity grinding now
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 19-May-22 02:19 PM
alkaid wait
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:19 PM
Rip
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But hey if any of you really want haseo to go milf chasing please feel free to suggest Kaede
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 19-May-22 02:20 PM
wait Kaede's an option?
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:21 PM
Any playable character
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Matsu is an option
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 19-May-22 02:21 PM
alkaid why do you do this to me
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Shaiapouf
But hey if any of you really want haseo to go milf chasing please feel free to suggest Kaede
Skeith 19-May-22 02:21 PM
I freely say I did Kaede first run
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:22 PM
Lmao
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Honestly I respect that
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 19-May-22 02:22 PM
I actually know basically nothing about Kaede
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:22 PM
Kaede is such a non-character within the narrative I feel like chasing Kaede is such a...pure reflection of taste
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 19-May-22 02:22 PM
"I don't know you but I want you all the more for that" moments
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni"
I actually know basically nothing about Kaede
Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:22 PM
I'll get into her deal later, I think you only find out if you send her very specific optional emails
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It is, as you might expect, surprisingly dark
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(...I think I accidentally talked myself into romancing Kaede, as a bit)
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Mysterious Stranger "Cyouni" 19-May-22 02:26 PM
.hack//Grievances Uncovered
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 02:32 PM
Honestly I have one big aggrevation about this game, and that's that I wish we got greeting cards way more frequently. For those who don't know, greeting cards are emails you can send out to start specific conversation email chains with party members to build affection
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And that's how you learn a lot about who these people are
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Mostly I've only been able to show off atoli's
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But like, that's how you learn Kaede's deal, for instance. There are also a ton of little world building and character details I wish I could have shown off more
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archaeo 19-May-22 02:56 PM
Sounds like a lot of work though
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archaeo 19-May-22 03:09 PM
Are there any entertaining period FAQs that cover the topic
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 03:15 PM
Yes actually
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Extremely detailed ones
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archaeo 19-May-22 03:15 PM
Naturally
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 03:16 PM
I could in fact just peruse those to find the choice bits, if so desired
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Since ultimately these are just dialogue trees with extra steps
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archaeo 19-May-22 03:21 PM
Same
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Shaiapouf 19-May-22 09:18 PM
Okay so
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last time on .hack, The Cubia Crisis begins
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we are in fact supposed to drop into GU to see what's up
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but before that
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we got a new Online Jack to watch
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speaking of Online Jack, Salvador Aihara has posted art of his OC and his guildmates
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which really is the most FF14 thing
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also on the fan art forums:
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....people are horny for the monsters. okay.
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anyways, Online Jack
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